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Monday, January 9th, 2006
11:36 am
[jakhel]
Diving in....

Happy New Year to whoever's out there - I just got done with a major writing project (first novel out to TOR - yay!) and I promised myself that the next thing I would tackle would be my in-progress-but-on-hold-while-I-concentrated-on-LEGITIMATE-stuff Tolkien fanfic project, "Tales of the Grey Pilgrim".  This started out as an offshoot of my "legit" series, which includes an organization of Multiverse-hopping Good Guys who recruit from among characters who have played out their roles in the various "mindworlds" ("Positing Infinity, the rest is easy" - R. Zelazny; in other words, in an infinite multiverse everything imaginable - and unimaginable - MUST exist, including sufficiently internally coherent fiction-originated universes....).  Naturally, our old buddy Olorin ("Gandalf") would be a prime candidate - but he'd probably require some Basic Retraining....

Got a ways into that story and it spun off into another one about his (relative) youth back in Valinor - including his (peripheral) role in the whole Silmaril fiasco....and then that one spun off into a MASSIVE project fleshing out the 50 years of Dagor Delothrim (when a population composed of all four races - Valar, Maiar, Eldar, and Edain - were cooped up in and around Siriombar, preparing to march on Thangorodrim - we don't know that Olorin was there, but we don't know that he wasn't, either, and the implications are, to put it mildly, addictively fascinating....)

To round it out into a full-fledged book, I'm going to end with a first-person story of Gandalf - now pseudo-mortal and essentially amnesiac - in the dungeons of Dol Guldur....

The four pieces being done in various tones, from full-on high-falutin' to contemporary casual, to make a rather interesting weave, if I do say so myself, which at this point, of course, I do...

A touch on the ambitious side, you betcha, so any immoral support will be quite welcome!  I already purchased and have gone through all Christopher's books - the fun part being choosing between versions of things like - oh, IS Ereinion really Fingon's son, and how old IS Legolas, really - and have fairly decent outlines and various-sized chunks of text for all four pieces.  May or may not recreate my "Infinite Regress" website (which used to have my Babylon 5 fanfic on it, and which I pulled when I started actually selling stories...) in some kind of restricted access mode and start putting this stuff (as well as re-posting that stuff<g>) there....demand and technical assistance would probably help a lot with that concept....

See, now I've posted this, so I'll have to quit procrastinating and actually get back TO it :D



Current Mood: creative
Tuesday, November 22nd, 2005
1:01 am
[sulien]
Suillaid (Greetings)!
Hello all! I was lucky enough to find this community and I thought I would join in. I love discussing Tolkien (most of my non-Tolkien loving friends tend to cringe if someone else brings the subject up), and this sounds like just the ticket. Hopefully you folks are still active. :D

Celedwain Geilu (Brightest Blessings),

Sûlien

Current Mood: relaxed
Wednesday, November 5th, 2003
10:37 am
[waterdaughter]
Wow...
I hope someone still looks at this community. I went looking for one with intelligent Tolkien discussion, and didn't have much luck until I found this one. ;) Of course, that's probably as much the fault of not quite knowing *where* to look- god knows searching interests for "tolkien" and "lord of the rings" isn't going to narrow it down. And nobody lists "intelligent tolkien discussion", unfortunately. ;)

Anyway, my question is this- does Gandalf's staff have a name? I honestly can't remember, but for some reason I want to think it does. Or maybe it's just because all the other swords and weapons seem to have names, and my mind is including staves along with that. I'm beginning to think I'm crazy, though, because I looked at the Encyclopedia of Arda and did several Google searches, none of which pulled up any information on a name. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Current Mood: curious
Saturday, March 15th, 2003
9:43 pm
[ladyelleth]
Newbie
Hi there...
I just found this community. Interesting discussions you have here, so I decided to join.

Hm.. for anyone interested in Silmarillion Fanfiction... a friend (
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Hi there...
I just found this community. Interesting discussions you have here, so I decided to join.

Hm.. for anyone interested in Silmarillion Fanfiction... a friend (<lj-user="klose">) and me opened a Fanlisting for that some days ago... maybe some of you would want to take a look?

This is not simply a post to advertise the site... I am really interested in the community =)
Saturday, March 29th, 2003
10:53 pm
[oloriel]
Probably a stupid question, but...
... somehow I'm totally unable to find out, so maybe you can help me. For some sort of Númenor fanfic I might or might not write (heh... I'm trying to start, but somehow I don't dare) I'm trying to find out the name of Isildur's wife, and whether he married her before the Downfall or after, and whether some of his sons were already born then (I suppose not, since if they were, they would had been over 100 years old already when the 2nd age ended... then again, you never know with Númenoreans)... I didn't find it mentioned anywhere, and it's kind of important to me...
*sigh*
So if any of you know anything about this, save me from my ignorance please ;)
Saturday, March 1st, 2003
10:23 am
[anneheart]
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002
6:31 pm
[varyar]
Saruman's ring...
Hopefully THIS topic is a bit less dangerous *g*

Anyway. In FOTR, Gandalf reveals that, when he was captured in Isengard, Saruman was wearing a ring on his finger. My question is this - what was the deal with that ring? Was it just an ordinary piece of jewelry intended to signify Saruman's ultimate hopes? Was it a ring of power? (One of the lesser ones, of course) Or was it a magical ring that Saruman himself had made?

In Tolkien's introduction to LOTR, where he dismisses the idea that it's a WWII allegory, he says that if LOTR HAD been an allegory, Saruman would have found a way to make his own copy of the One Ring and used it. Tolkien was exagerating to make a point, but I think it's not entirely beyond the realm of possibility that Saruman could have crafted a minor ring of power. He had decades, if not centuries, to slowly amass the remaining ring-lore and began his experiments in Isengard. Who knows what he may have come up with?

Also, what happened to that ring, whatever it was, after Saruman died? Gathering dust in Michel Delving? An heirloom of the Took or Brandybuck families?
Wednesday, November 13th, 2002
10:45 pm
[varyar]
Religion in Middle-earth...
Hi folks. The upcoming release of TTT, amongst other things, has me back in the Tolkien groove. This topic has been addressed here before, but it's one of interest to me (and hopefully others), so, here goes...

Tolkien's writings are fairly light on the religious aspects of life in Arda. And that's certainly understandably given his beliefs and motivations in writing LOTR and the other books. So, we see a world that has almost nothing in the way of organized or unorganized religion.

And yet it's also a world where gods are manifestly real and where the same gods attest to the existance of a God. Somewhere along the line, worship would spring up. My question (finally!) is this - what would it look like?

We get some glimpses in Tolkien's work - the Elves have clear veneration for Varda, and the Numenoreans and their descendents have a vaguely expressed reverance for the Valar and Eru. And, of course, there was the temple that Sauron had constructed in Numenor.

That aside, though, there just ain't much. But, clearly (at least to me), there should be. In our world, where the existence of the divine is a matter of faith, religion flourishes in every society. In Middle-earth, where it's a matter of fact, more or less, it would, too. Or at least, that's the basis for this whole long, repetitive spiel...

So, boys and girls, what do you think Middle-earth religion(s) would look like?

For me, I see Numenor and its offshoots as resembling an idealized version of medieval Christianity. Not so much in terms of theology and dogma, of course, but close links between church and state. After all, the Kings really were divinely annointed. So there would be a very formalized and ornate religion in Numenor, IMO. Eru as the core of belief (until Sauron began corrupting things in Numenor) and the Valar more or less taking the role of our worlds angels and saints, their importance rising and falling over time.

So... any other thoughts? Ideas? Mocking laughter? Go for it! I'm game!
Thursday, October 3rd, 2002
3:46 pm
[zahgurim]
Well, I see this community is small and sparsely posted, but that shouldn't dissuade one from posting, correct?

I am (primarily) interested in Tolkien's works as mythology; mostly in the parallels between Germanic mythology/lore and Tolkien's works. I love the dwarves and their Old Norse origins, their runes, etc.

I am also interested in Tolkien's languages- although I enjoy looking at the systems behind the languages and their depth rather than "learning" the languages per se (as I would rather spend my time learning other languages that are used to a greater extent in the "real" world).

Anyway, my question/point of discussion is: Where did the idea for Gandalf come from? Gandálf means "earth-elf" or dwarf (cf. Snorra Edda), yet he has many qualities akin to Óðinn. He serves as an instrument of fate (sent by the Valar), yet is a character in his own right. In a literary sense- who is Gandalf? In light of Nordic/Germanic/English (or even Celtic?) mythology- what does he symbolize? Why did Tolkien choose "Gandalf" as his name?

Discuss. (Forgive my lack of hard literary research on Tolkien. If anyone has any books or articles from journals to recommend on these and other Tolkien topics, please do share!).

Current Mood: scholarly
Wednesday, August 28th, 2002
5:25 pm
[anneheart]
(ducks large unabridged Elven dictionary thrown by Bookman, who is too patient with me)
So, since I've had requests for the uruk-haiku, I need to get into the philosophy of the fighting uruk-hai. Anyone want to tackle that?
Monday, August 19th, 2002
11:17 am
[anneheart]
*looks around, brushes dust off of community*
*stands on chair, hopes this is appropriate for the community, clears throat*

So I'm talking typing to someone I know through a fanfic support group about obsessions and, more specifically, LotR obsessions; more specifically still, the woman who decorated her house with images of Elijah Wood. Would not want to be her neighbor/daughter/mother/concerned friend. . . *shudder, shudder*

But it made me think of why I love the movie so much (don't know the answer to that right now) and that made me think about why I love the book so much (don't know the answer to that right now, either). Tolkien was not a great writer and he uses semicolons more than any other writer ever with the possible exception of Marcel Proust . . . ah, Proust . . . sigh . . . and while the theme is a timeless one, it's been done before.

What is it about Tolkien and his world that captivates? And what aspects of that foster obsession?

*gets off chair, looks around for anyone*

Current Mood: awake
Thursday, July 25th, 2002
7:41 am
[varyar]
Do Orcs and Trolls have souls?
Discuss. Please? :)
Saturday, July 20th, 2002
10:00 pm
[varyar]
First topic?
So... anybody got any ideas what to discuss here first? *g*

One possibility just sprang to mind. If you'll forgive me for bridging fiction and myth, and 3rd and Nth Ages... But in ROTK, Legolas says the line of Luthien will never faily as long as the world endures, or words to that effect. Building off that, I had the sudden image of Arthur as the last heir of the line of Aragorn. (This sorta ties into Tolkien's abandoned Anglo-Saxon framing tales, as in Book of Lost Tales)

So... not sure where I'm going with this. Arthur the last King of the West, Merlin a last dim echo of the Numenorean sages of old... any thoughts/comments/ideas/mocking laughter/cooler topics for discussion?
Thursday, July 18th, 2002
9:36 pm
[varyar]
Welcome aboard...
Just the ObFirst Post deal. Hello, all... hello... hello... hello...
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